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Marshall Hoot Testimony Section 3
Trial Testimony of Marshall Hoot
Section 2 of 3
Vol. XXI, 2166
Q. So that is the only thing that has remained in your memory as to the announcements made by that voice on those occasions?
A. That is what I was listening for more or less. I was not listening to hear programs for entertainment.
Q. But what you have testified to that you heard that voice announce on that occasion, on each of those occasions, is simply an extract that you made out of the context of the statements, she made, isn't that true?
MR. DeWOLFE: I object to that as argumentative and calling for the conclusion of the witness.
THE COURT: Read the question.
(Question read.)
THE COURT: You may answer. Did you understand the question?
THE WITNESS: No, I don't understand the question.
Mr. COLLINS: Q. You heard that voice make a statement on February 17, 1944, something about, "Why don't you see your commanding officer and ask to be sent back home? Don't stay out in that jungle and let somebody else run off with your girl friend." Is that correct?
A. That is correct.
Q. The voice that stated that also stated something in addition isn't that true?

Vol. XXI, 2167
A. Yes, she would carry on after each record.
Q. Yes, so that when you say she made that statement, that is not the precise statement that she made, is it?
A. In substance, that is all.
Q. You do not wish us to understand that that was the exact statement that she made?
A. She made that statement, that part of the statement, in substance as far as I can remember.
Q. What I am getting at, Mr. Hoot, is, you do not recall the exact language, do you?
A. Yes.
Q. You do recall the exact language?
A. In substance what she said.
Q. Yes, I understand that. What I am getting at is this: That is your recollection of what she said in substance?
A. That is what I heard her say or I couldn't remember.
Q. Yes, but it is not the exact language that you heard over the radio on that occasion, is it?
MR. DeWOLFE: I object to that, your Honor. That question has been asked and answered several times.
THE COURT: The objection is sustained.
MR. COLLINS: Q. The statement that you have testified to that you heard on that occasion is an extract from a longer statement that that voice made on that occasion, isn't that true?

Vol. XXI, p. 2171
Q. Did she state anything else?
A. Not until after she would play a record.
Q. What statement did she make on that occasion, if you recall?
A. She said, "You know, the boys back home are making the big money. They can well afford to take your girl friends out."
Q. Anything else?
A. That is as far as I recollect.
Q. She stated something in addition to that but you do not recall the remainder of her statement, is that correct?
A. I do believe she said anything else besides that.
Q. Didn't she make an announcement concerning musical recordings?
A. She always did.
Q. And she said something in addition to that, didn't she?
A. No, I don't believe she did.
Q. But she did make an announcement concerning musical recordings, didn't she?
A. She did.
Q. Your recollection is just limited to that sentence or two?
A. That is what she said. After she played that record.
Q. Do you recall whether that is the exact language that you heard?
A. That is right.
Q. That is the exact language?

Vol. XXI, p. 2172
A. As close as I can remember it, it is.
Q. Did you hear any prisoner-of-war messages read on that occasion?
A. I did not.
Q. Did you hear more than one woman's voice on that occasion?
A. I did not.
Q. Did you hear more than one man's voice on that occasion?
A. I don't recollect.
Q. How long did you listen to the program on that occasion?
A. I think we listened to it all the way through, practically all the way through, because at that time--as I said before, I was not listening to the record for entertainment. I was listening to it for a purpose.
Q. Did you keep any notes or make any notes on these programs?
A. I did on these:
Q. Have you got those notes?
A. I have not. They are in the log.
Q. What did you do with those notes?
A. They are in the log book, They were logged.
Q. Where is the log book?
A. Some place out in the Pacific, I guess. I don't know where it is. When the war was over, I don't know where those ships went to or what happened. The one I was on was lost off the Marianas.
Q. Was the log lost with it, do you know?
A. I don't know whether it was, or not. I was not on it at the time.

Vol. XXI, p. 2172a
Q. Were you the only one who made entries in the log?
A. No, sir, the quartermaster made the entries in the log. I didn't make them.
Q. Was it one of the duties assigned to you to make notes concerning radio programs you listened to?
A. I assigned the quartermaster. That was his job. I didn't make any entries in the log.
Q. But you knew about the assignment?
A. I always read the log every morning, or seen any message or anything pertaining to our ship or surroundings entered in the log.
Q. Are you able to fix the date that you heard that program with a little more accuracy than early in February, 1944?
A. It was the first part of February. That is all I can say.
Q. Just the first part?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Do you recall what day of the week it was?
A. No, I couldn't tell you.
Q. And by the first part what do you mean?
A. Well, from the 1st to the 15th, something like that - 1st to the 12th, 15th.

Vol. XXI, p. 2173
Q; Now, that program also was opened by a man. was it, or a man's voice?
A. Same as all the rest of them.
Q. Just the same as the other programs that you have testified to?
A. That's right.
Q. In other words, it opened with a man's voice, then there was some music played.
A. Yes.
Q. Was that a theme song, if you recall?
A. That was.
Q. You do not recall the name of it?
A. I do not.
Q. That was followed by the voice of Little Orphan Annie?
A. Orphan Ann.
Q. You are positive it was not Little Annie on this occasion?
A. Orphan Ann, definitely.
Q. She made announcements concerning musical recordings on that occasion?
A. She did.
Q. Did she do anything in addition to making the announcement of the musical recordings?
A. Yes, she had something to say after each record.
Q. What else did you hear that voice state on that occasion?
A. I heard her say, "I wonder how the folks are at home. Have

Vol. XXI, p. 2174
you heard from them lately? Aren't they asking you to come back?"
Q. This is between the first of February and the 15th of February?
A. Yes, sir,
Q. Yes, sir. You are positive of that. Did she state anything else?
A. That's what I logged. I don't remember of anything else.
Q. So that-- When did you last see that log?
A. I last seen that log August the 17th 1944.
Q. August 17, 1944?
A. That's right.
Q. Were all the entries made in that log by you?
A. That's right, and signed.
Q. And that particular log entry was made by you, is that correct?
A. That was.
Q. So that your testimony now is from your recollection of what you entered in that log?
A. From the recollection of what was written down.
Q. Yes. Now that program would wound up the same way, did it?
A. It did.
Q. With a musical piece, and you don't recall the name of the musical piece?
A. Well, the ending of it was the "Goodbye now," as usual.
Q. Yes. Now, did anybody. Withdraw that.

More of the same for the next 6 pages of testimony.

Vol. XXI, p. 2180
Q. The same theme music you hazard on these other occasions?
A. As far as I can remember, yes.
Q. You are not sure of that?
A. As far as I can remember.
Q. But I am asking you, you are not sure of that.
MR. HOGAN: I object to that as purely argumentative.
THE COURT: The witness has answered the question two or three ways. I think we are wasting considerable time. There has been repetition going on here that is hardly justified. I say that advisedly. Let us proceed and finish with the witness
MR. COLLINS: Has Your Honor ruled on that?.
THE COURT: Read the question, Mr. Reporter.
(Last question read.)
THE COURT: The objection will be sustained.
MR. COLLINS: Q. Do you recall any prisoner of war messages were read on that occasion?
A. I do not.
Q. Do you recall any comedy skits or dramas or plays on that occasion?
A. No, sir.
Q. Do you recall how long you listened?
A. Yes, I think I listened all the way through that program. I know I did. I listened to every word she said.
Q. Do you recall hearing a signoff on that program?
A. I did.

Vol. XXI, p. 2181
Q. The same signoff, musical?
A. Vocal.
Q. The same piece you heard previously?
A. It was.
Q. And that piece was "Goodbye, now"?
A. "Goodbye, Now."
Q. Is there anything in particular that fixes your mind to the fact that took place on January 3, 1944?
A. I am absolutely sure.
Q. What makes you sure?
A. I have a letter in my pocket to prove it. I wrote to my wife that day.
Q. Did you refer to that program in that letter?
A. I did.
Q. May I see that letter?
A. I don't know whether you can read it or not, Mr. Collins.
Q. I don't want to read anything personal. I don't want you to read it out loud.
A. I am not.
Q. Is this a carbon copy or the original letter?
A. This is the original letter.
Q. Have you got the envelope with it?
A. I have the censored envelope, January 3, 1944.
Q. And that fixes the time in your mind?
A. That's right.

Vol. XXI, p. 2182
Q. Did you mention the program in that letter?
A. I did.
Q. You did?
A. I did.
Q. May I see that? Did you have this letter with you yesterday, Mr. Hoot? Did you have the letter with you yesterday?
A. I have had the letter with me--starting in right here, I just marked it out, sir. That is what I would like you to look at, nothing else.
Q. All right.
MR. DeWOLFE: Let us see it, Mr. Collins, after you get through with it.
MR. COLLINS: You can look at it first if you want to.
MR. DeWOLFE: You can look at it first. After you get through, I will look at it.
MR. COLLINS: Q. Mr. Hoot, January 3 was a Monday, wasn't it?
A. I do not know--I believe it was on Monday, yes, sir.
Q. Yes, it was on Monday.
A. Yes, it was on Monday. I remember other things she said that program at that time, too, besides what l have stated here.
Q. You wrote your letter on January 3, 1944?.
A. 1944, yes,
Q. With reference to a program that had occurred the night

Vol. XXI, p. 2183
A. No, that was wrote after the program, before 12:00 o'clock.
Q. I will ask you to look at your letter in just a moment, Mr. Hoot, and see.
A. All right, sir.
Q. Mr. Hoot, will you look at the second page, and you will see that January 4 is stated on the second page.
A. Where is that?
Q. The first word on the second page; that is January 4, isn't it?
A. That's right. This letter was wrote on this program of January the 3rd. This is when the program came on, because she came on and said, "This is Little Orphan Ann;"- no - "This is Little Back-from-the-Weekend Orphan Ann coming to you from Radio Tokyo." That was on January the 3rd.
Q. You started to write your letter on January 3, didn't you, Mr. Hoot? It bears that notation.
A. I did, on January 3.
Q. Yes, but there is a reference on page 2 to January 4, isn't there, the first line on page 2.
A., I started the letter January the 3rd --
Q. Yes, but you didn't --
A. A.M.
Q. - you didn't finish it until January 4?
A. Well, I have got it here as January 4 and January 5 and here

Vol. XXI, p. 2184
is January the 6th. As far as dates are concerned, out there I lost time of dates and time, and this letter here is postmarked the 6th. I wrote it on the 3rd and I said something there about the 2nd and also on the 4th.
Q. So you didn't mail the letter actually until the 6th?
A. I didn't mall the letter. I couldn't.
Q. So you did put some writing on there January 3rd?
A. January 4th and January 2nd, 2nd, 3rd and 4th.
Q. Yes. Now, when did you first hear---
MR. HOGAN: If Your Honor please, if defense counsel has no objection, I would like to offer that letter in evidence and have it read.
MR. COLLINS: Just used it for the purpose of fixing the date.
THE WITNESS: That is all right., You can read what I blocked out if you wish.
MR. HOGAN: Mr. Hoot. have you any objection to having the full letter read?
THE WITNESS: Could I read it first? l haven't read this letter in five or six years.
THE COURT: We will take a recess.

Vol. XXI, p. 2185
MR. DeWOLFE: If the Court please, with the consent of the witness the Government offers this letter in evidence.
MR. COLLINS: Just a moment, please. We were having a man on cross-examination.
MR. COLLINS: Q. Mr. Hoot, I will show you the letter that you delivered to me and ask you if on the first page you put in those brackets in ink.
A. I did that.
Q. On page 1 and also on page 2?
A. I did.
Q. When did you put the brackets in there?
A. I put those in there a long time ago.
Q. Do you recall approximately when?
A. I would say 1944, January.
Q. January of 1944?
A. That is what I wanted my wife to specially look at.
Q. In other words, although you wrote this letter in pencil, you put these brackets in ink?
A. I did, at the suggestion of Mr. Brewer, bosun's mate, second class. He said he would do that, and also the censor. We were not listening to the program for entertainment, as I said before. It was for other purposes.
Q. Those brackets were put in there for the purpose --
A, They were put in there by the pen of the censor.
Q. The brackets were put in there by the censor's pen?

Vol. XXI, p. 2186
A. Yes, I used the pen.
Q. You used the pen?
A. I did.
Q. But you put the brackets in?
A. I did.
Q. Sometime in 1944?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Just before you mailed the letter?
A. That is right, before I sealed it.
Q. But the bracketing relates to the broadcast that you heard?
A. That is right. It is something that happened the day before.
Q, You had heard the name of Tokyo Rose on or by January 3 of 1944, hadn't you?
A. That was the, nickname we gave her in the Pacific.
Q. No, but you had heard the name of Tokyo Rose, hadn't you?
MR. DEWOLFE: I object to that question. That was asked and answered yesterday.
THE COURT: You may answer it.
Q. Did you hear that name Tokyo Rose?
A. I had, yes.
THE COURT: Proceed.
MR. COLLINS: Q. When had you first heard the name Tokyo Rose, if you recall, Mr. Hoot?
A. I can't recall that.
Q. Approximately when?
A. Oh, sometime in the latter part - myself, something around December, 1943.

Vol. XXI, pp. 2187-2194 Questioning concerning brackets in the letters and when Hoot heard the name "Tokyo Rose" continues.

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